Wednesday, January 28, 2009


Hi, metta hallem/t,
Our old timers refer to France(colonial)as : qamir. The "q" as in Qaddour/kaddour.

I have some questions:

-Why do they refer to France as qamir?
-What is the exact meaning of the word qamir?
-Does the word exist in Taqabylit, Tarifit...etc?



Anonymous said...


As a Shawi person , I would like to tell you that I never heard this word before. May be you can narrow down the region in Chawiland where it is used.

Qim dhi Lehna

shawi yegguma said...

Hi there,
I heard it in different regions of Aures. But like I said, it is more common among the older generation.

Here is Lamia of Radio Batna using the word:

What is more interesting is the fact that the word QAMIR is used as name for girls.

Take care.

Anonymous said...

Hi Shawi,
I know that, you're absolutely right i heard of Qamira as a girl name. I think it comes from arabic qamar(moon/ayyur). I think it's a "dhamyati form" an anagram and translates into MAQAR(mean spirited human being?!?).

shawi yegguma said...

> i heard of Qamira as a girl name

What I had in mind is QAMIR(no a). Q as in Qaddur.

Perhaps you are thinking GUEMRA.

I appreciate your input!

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